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Old 02-11-2005, 12:58 AM   #1
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Strongbox... wow!

We've had Pennywize installed on all our domains for some time, but just lately their seemed to be a lot of usernames getting in without Pennywize stopping them despite lowering the settings.
We decided to give Strongbox a try and have been blown away by it.
Ray who installed it for us on all our paysites is a great great guy and i cannot reccomend his software highly enough.
To give credit where credit is due, many thanks Ray!

Strongbox

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Old 02-11-2005, 01:08 AM   #2
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I love it myself

Kicked pennywize and proxypass in the ass..
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Old 02-11-2005, 01:32 AM   #4
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Yep. Ray and Strongbox gets two thumbs way up here too. Pennywize was a joke in comparison.
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Old 02-11-2005, 02:06 AM   #5
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I like PW more.
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Old 02-11-2005, 02:54 AM   #6
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I love it myself

Kicked pennywize and proxypass in the ass..

I agree, i switched to strongbox about 3 months ago and i love it
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Old 02-11-2005, 08:18 AM   #7
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after I adjusted my PennyWise settings and set a download limit, things have been running smoothly. They're ok.
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Old 02-11-2005, 09:37 AM   #8
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after I adjusted my PennyWise settings and set a download limit, things have been running smoothly. They're ok.
If you go into Pennywize, look at accounts with 2-6 logins, many have different countries, all of them are password leaks that pennywize doesn't see. Proxypass does the same thing.


When I changed over to StrongBox and my BW in the member areas droped by at least 30%, server load from pennywize / proxypass went back to normal. The amount of password leaks I had before strongbox blew me away.


Pennywize = super bad, at least get ProxyPass.
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Old 02-11-2005, 09:40 AM   #9
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Old 02-11-2005, 09:42 AM   #10
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TheDoc told me in vegas to get Strongbox so I did.

I don't have anything else to compare it to but no problems so far.
I was blown away by the very low price of it.

I think with pennywize you have to pay a monthly fee?
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I was right....Pennywize starts at $30 a month and can be as much as $170 a month (depending on the size of your member base)

I paid a $90 flat fee for strongbox....plus most people say its better.

That's a no brainer
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Old 02-11-2005, 10:04 AM   #12
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We had Ray set it up on one of our load balance set ups a year or so ago but we didnt have time then to sort out the teething problems. Would like to try it again but we have a much bigger load balance set up now and don't want to cause any major problems.
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Old 02-11-2005, 10:22 AM   #13
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I have installed both, tried both, didnt see a difference in BW, its all about settings, they do similar work.
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Old 02-11-2005, 11:29 AM   #14
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Thanks mattyboy, Tony, Doc, Tat, Buddah, HungLo, and Lenny.
It really means a lot to hear that it's working so well for so many people
because I put my heart and soul into deveoping Strongbox. After spending
about a year on something called PicFortress I had to shelve that
project due to compatibility issues. I went back and picked up some research
I'd done on password sites and dictionary attacks and 18 months later had
the first release of Strongbox ready. After PicFortress didn't pan out
it's great to know that my more recent work is working so well for so
many webmasters.

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We had Ray set it up on one of our load balance set ups a year or so ago but we didnt have time then to sort out the teething problems. Would like to try it again but we have a much bigger load balance set up now and don't want to cause any major problems.
You're at Webair, right? I just set up the current version on a Webair cluster consisting
of I believe 9 (or was it 6?) front end web servers, a pair of NFS servers, and I think
another auxilary server for MySQL etc. That's working nicely, so the current version
will scale OK on a large cluster of the type Webair builds (which are done right, BTW, if anyone
is in need of a clustering solution). I believe it's OneHungLo, who posted in this thread,
who has a geographically diverse cluster running Strongbox and who seems to be
very happy with it. He has servers in different cities clustered, so we can work with
just about anything. On the other hand, very large sites of the type that are normally
put on large clusters do have some differences from smaller sites and that's why
we're writing some new Strongbox components such as an incredibly fast database
system custom designed for storing and processing the data that Strongbox uses.
Overthe next 30-60 days we'll be readying a version of Strongbox that runs like
nothing else on very large sites.
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:21 PM   #15
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Interesting..Strongbox has been getting lots of good feedback lately.
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:36 PM   #17
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Tried strongbox but I removed it after one day because it stopped my customers from using download managers. Apparently it could have been enabled, but at a greater security risk due to the way it uses sub domains.

To bad
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Thanks mattyboy, Tony, Doc, Tat, Buddah, HungLo, and Lenny.
It really means a lot to hear that it's working so well for so many people
because I put my heart and soul into deveoping Strongbox. After spending
about a year on something called PicFortress I had to shelve that
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I'd done on password sites and dictionary attacks and 18 months later had
the first release of Strongbox ready. After PicFortress didn't pan out
it's great to know that my more recent work is working so well for so
many webmasters.
This is the Strongbox webmaster notification system on xxxxxxxxxxxx.com
Someone tried to login as "xxxxxxxxxxxxx",
but that same username has already been used recently
by someone in other countries. That username may be on a
password site or otherwise compromised. I'm suspending that
username for a while, to see if this behavior stops soon.
If they keep it up, I'll disable that username permanently
and email you to let you know.

Gotta love that

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Old 02-11-2005, 01:52 PM   #20
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Dirty D approved.

We have Strongbox protecting our members area, on a load-balanced pair of servers.

Ray supplies awesome support and his product is worth far more than he charges.

Anyone paying monthly for a solution, should contact Ray immediately.
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Tried strongbox but I removed it after one day because it stopped my customers from using download managers. Apparently it could have been enabled, but at a greater security risk due to the way it uses sub domains.

To bad
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I've been using strongbox on my paysite for two years now, I tried pennywize and proxypass and they brought nothing but complaints from my members.
And the support I get from Ray is simply amazing
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I've been using strongbox on my paysite for two years now, I tried pennywize and proxypass and they brought nothing but complaints from my members.
And the support I get from Ray is simply amazing
what complaints?
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We have been using it from the day it was released and have never had any problems. The reports and email warnings you get are excellent
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can somebody from strongbox hit me up?
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i want to begin using it. Pennywize sucks

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Now… the first question there is really one worth laughing at! No, really! Why do you have to have some psychological problems with women to run some hardcore sites? I have a friend that runs a gay site? Now what question should be asked regarding this
The question that should be asked is.. who are you?
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Are there any sort of password protection scripts that works in a similar way if you don't use htaccess auth.?
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Strongbox does not use the old type of .htaccess authorization. ;)
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Strongbox does not use the old type of .htaccess authorization. ;)

I'm not using htaccess at all but a session based login. Can strongbox also protect such sites ?
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Now? the first question there is really one worth laughing at! No, really! Why do you have to have some psychological problems with women to run some hardcore sites? I have a friend that runs a gay site? Now what question should be asked regarding this
Ok so did your day really go like this?

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Ya, we used Strongbox forever, and I have nothing but great things to say about Ray and his program.
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someone from strongbox please get ahold of me .. I have some questions .. thanks ..
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I just switched one of my sites over from Pennywize to Strongbox and I like it a lot more. Way more control, and the email messages are so much friendlier ;)

Ray & Ali were very helpful.
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Aron told me we were switching back to Proxy Pass, says whatever we are using wont allow some of the paid feeds to work correctly. My question is will strong box allow paid for feeds 2 work. I guess the reason is the Members URL keeps changing or something. ::: Shrugs :::

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How does Stongbox compare to Phantom Frog?
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How does Stongbox compare to Phantom Frog?
Never used Strongbox, but couldn't be happier with Phantom Frog. The Frog not only blocks password abuse after the FIRST sign of abuse, it allows the real user to retrieve a new password without waiting on the webmaster to reply to an email. Basically, it's 24 hour customer service and password protection.
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Never used Strongbox, but couldn't be happier with Phantom Frog. The Frog not only blocks password abuse after the FIRST sign of abuse, it allows the real user to retrieve a new password without waiting on the webmaster to reply to an email. Basically, it's 24 hour customer service and password protection.
Guess that 24/hour support is worth $50/month. Depending on how ya look at it, I'm sure for some ppl like yourself, it's a good deal. Emailing customers and dealing with the abuse issues does take time.
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No download managers at all?
In it's default configuration, most download managers will work fine
with Strongbox most of the time. There is a setting that can be
set so that most any download manager will work. It's a little more
secure to have the setting at it's default, though, which requires them
to browse the site with the same browser that they logged in with.
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Yes, your feeds will work fine. For some feeds on some sites, it is necesary to change
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b) doesn't allow for you to link from different subdomains.
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I use both strongbox and throttlebox. They've already saved me more in bandwidth than the cost of the products.
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Jake, I sent you an ICQ message but didn't reach you.
THe phone number on our web site, 1-979-530-1300, rings at the office, my home,
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I am new around here and I?d like to know something about strongbox. So, it is a security system that works with some media devices in windows. My question is if it works with Win DVD player and if there?s necessary to use it with this DVD player, the only DVD player on my PC. Help me out please.
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I have a client who is currently using ProxyPass on an old Apache 1.3 setup.

Does Strongbox's apache module have support for transparent pass through with the new Apache 2.2 series authn_dbd modules, or would it need to use a hacked up mod_auth_mysql? (I'm not interested in a collection of Perl scripts, nor am I interested in supporting them. )
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I have a client who is currently using ProxyPass on an old Apache 1.3 setup.

Does Strongbox's apache module have support for transparent pass through with the new Apache 2.2 series authn_dbd modules, or would it need to use a hacked up mod_auth_mysql? (I'm not interested in a collection of Perl scripts, nor am I interested in supporting them. )

Strongbox replaces mod_auth_mysql and other authentication modules.
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I am new around here and I?d like to know something about strongbox. So, it is a security system that works with some media devices in windows. My question is if it works with Win DVD player and if there?s necessary to use it with this DVD player, the only DVD player on my PC. Help me out please.
Strongbox is not itself a DRM system, but it does work fine with popular DRM services/systems, such as EZDRM.com What Strongbox does is prevent many people from using the same password, and prevents people from guessing passwords. Only after passwords have been secured by Strongbox does it make sense to require the passwords to play the videos. Does that make sense?
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