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Old 03-09-2004, 11:58 AM   #1
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Should gays have The Right To Be Married?

Personally I don't see a problem with it. I see it as none of my business if they do or don't!
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Old 03-09-2004, 11:59 AM   #2
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Why not, straight people arent exactly doing a good job with the whole marriage thing, maybe its time gays picked up the ball and ran with it. see if they can do a better job.
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Old 03-09-2004, 11:59 AM   #3
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doesn't bother me - let em get hitched

but they should know that the lawyers will be lining up to fuck them over when it comes time for the divorce, too
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civil union, yes. marriage, no
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Old 03-09-2004, 12:01 PM   #5
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Absolutely. If two people care about each other, then God bless.
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Old 03-09-2004, 12:02 PM   #6
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And what is your reason for only allowing civil unions? religion?
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Old 03-09-2004, 12:03 PM   #7
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Sure, I think they should have the EXACT same rights as anyone else. Or else that is discrimination.
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I think gays make better parents than str8 people simply because they dont see marriage as a farce to be taken likely - best for the children.

It will be interesting to see the marriage statistics after a few years in canada
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Yes. It's straight people that shouldn't have the right to get married. Straight people have ruined the world.
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I see a couple of no's but no reasons given, WHY!
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I see a couple of no's but no reasons given, WHY!
maybe they are afraid of commitment
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I think they should! There is no reason why they should be legally discriminated against!

I heard some republicans say on national TV that gay-marriage will open the way for man-dog and other interspecies marriages, and that?s just an absolutely ridiculous defense!
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Ok hold on a second. For you fuck stains that said no- are you also against a black man being allowed in the same resturaunt as you?

No, there is no difference. You're ignorant.
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I think gays make better parents than str8 people simply because they dont see marriage as a farce to be taken likely - best for the children.

It will be interesting to see the marriage statistics after a few years in canada
I agree that gays should be allowed to marry,


I however disagree with the analogy that gays would make better parents, that comes naturally.... and paternal instincts of a mother could not be duplicated in the case of male gay marrige with children!

marrige is OK in my book, gay adoption I am still not convinced that is what is best for the child yet.


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Any one who has an issue with it is clearly questioning their own sexuality. As long as you're not sleeping with animals or children, who cares!?
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Here is a link to a brief history of marriage in America.

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Old 03-09-2004, 12:17 PM   #19
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I agree that gays should be allowed to marry,


I however disagree with the analogy that gays would make better parents, that comes naturally.... and paternal instincts of a mother could not be duplicated in the case of male gay marrige with children!

marrige is OK in my book, gay adoption I am still not convinced that is what is best for the child yet.


you do have a point joesho - maybe I over reacted, I just felt that gay marriages tend to take it seriously since they have fought so long to be recognized that the parents would take more interest and care so as not to draw negative attention.

All the gay community would need is one parent screwing up to ruin it - sad truth - but the world would jump all over them. I just feel that gay parents will always have in the back of their minds the need to prove themselves worthy over a straight couple.
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Old 03-09-2004, 12:17 PM   #20
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This is a good question. I'll be honest I'm somewhat torn on this. I feel they should have the same rights as everyone else, since they are like everyone else other than sex preferance. Do I think they should have kids? Not really because I feel the child will be ridiculed and I dont think its fair to the child. Will I be hated on for this probably. I would hope that tolerance and acceptance become the norm in the future, but I'm not seeing it. Not everyone sees it like Cecil Williams.
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Old 03-09-2004, 12:18 PM   #21
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Hell NO, I still don't understand how someone can like dick more than pussy.
so its okay to be a gay woman but not a gay man?? As long as your attracted to the idea??

hate to have a world that runs on that premise based on what gets your rocks off vs. what is the humane and right thing to do
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What about women that like pussy more than dick?
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I see no reason why they cant . It is a free country
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Everyone should enjoy marriage at least once. Who is anyone to say what makes anyone else happy?

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I'm really sick and tired of hearing people against gay marriages boiling their arguments down to parenting. That children benefit from a mother and a father and that marriage in it's traditional sense must be "protected" for the sake of the children.

I'm probably preachign to the choir here .. but what the hell does marriage have to do with raising kids exactly? Sure maybe some would like all children to be raised by married couples .. but the fact is they aren't.

I was raised by a single mother. Many people are raised by single parents. My kids right now are being raised by a mother and a father but my spouse and I aren't legally married.

Gay couples are raising kids and there's nothing illegal about it. So you're doing no good for children by "protecting traditional marriage".
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Probably the same reason you can't understand why some people are right handed and others are left handed.
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And the right should be taken away from straight people as well.
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I was more or less against it, until I found out that it was against the law. Now I am for it, as I feel that it is none of the gov'ts business. Even worse is to see otherwise liberal leaning politicos pandering to the christian moderates by coming out against it, when you know that, in their hearts, they really couldn't give a rat's ass whether or not gay couples marry.
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Old 03-09-2004, 04:57 PM   #33
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Yes. I feel they should get married. I think that people who state that that gays shouldn't marry because they want to protect the "traditional institution of marriage" are full of shit. If the government really wanted to protect the institution of marriage, they would do so by making it harder to get a divorce, or to make it a punishable crime to commit adultery. So that argument does not hold water.

And people who say that marriage should be for "procreation" purposes (I recall some people saying that on this board too) , well, not all straight couples marry with the intention of making a family. Some people never intend to have children ever. And I know a lot of married people who don't have kids and don't plan to either. It all has to do with religious crap , the government is too much influenced by religion and conservatives.

And about kids being ridiculed, who cares about that, it's really not a big deal. My parents are straight and I got picked on in school when I was a kid because I have a very unusual name, and kids used to make fun of it. Plus I grew up in an area where most of the kids were white (and I'm not) and I got called racial slurs all the time, and I turned out fine. There are much worse things that can happen to a kid besides being ridiculed, like being abused or living in poverty. I remeber one kid getting picked on because he wore glasses. Getting picked on is a part of growing up, all kids have to deal with it. If the kid wouldn't get picked on because his parents were gay, then he or she would probably get picked on for something else. That is just life, kids can be cruel.

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This is a good question. I'll be honest I'm somewhat torn on this. I feel they should have the same rights as everyone else, since they are like everyone else other than sex preferance. Do I think they should have kids? Not really because I feel the child will be ridiculed and I dont think its fair to the child.
I seen this argument alot ..I disagree with it because a child can be ridiculed because he has over weight parents..or not so good looking parents...or parents who don't have $$.ect.

I suppose we should take all them kids away from those people so their childern don't grow up being ridiculed to?
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Ya, I'm sure Thomas Jefferson and George Washington really would have allowed gays to get married.


I'm against it.


1. The laws are on the books against it.

2. The majority of people don't want it.

3. Its completely against the tradition of what marriage was meant to be.

4. It puts a alternative sexual lifestyle in everyones faces including children.


Its just pc out of control. Cant have christmas pageants, but will have gay marriages.
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Ya, I'm sure Thomas Jefferson and George Washington really would have allowed gays to get married.



1. The laws are on the books against it.

There have been a lot of laws that have been changed, and ammendments have been made to the constitution to keep up with the progressing times; society is not stagnant, it is constantly changing. A few hundred years ago women couldn't vote, and now they can. I'm sure Thomas Jefferson and George Washington did not anticipate that either, but nonetheless, it happened.
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well they already have the right to stick their cocks in each other's assholes and worship Barbra Streisand and Judy Garland, by comparison marrying each other doesn't seem like such a big a deal.
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Why not, straight people arent exactly doing a good job with the whole marriage thing, maybe its time gays picked up the ball and ran with it. see if they can do a better job.


the arguement for the 'no' crowd is generally based on a religious theme, and basing shit on stuff that can NOT be proven is not logical...and shit that is not logical should not be allowed into the legal system...

if so, why would we consider our country to be anything other than Christian Talibanish?




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Hell no.

A marriage is a legal union between a man and a woman, a husband and a wife. This should not even be open to disussion. When I say I am married, there should be no doubt that I am married to a woman.

By allowing gays to get married it changes the definition of my marriage.

This isn't to say that gays shouldn't be entitled to have the exact same rights I have being married. You just can't call it a marriage.
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I think if it's what makes them happy let them get marry. I honestly don't see anything wrong with that.
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Hell no.

A marriage is a legal union between a man and a woman, a husband and a wife. This should not even be open to disussion. When I say I am married, there should be no doubt that I am married to a woman.

By allowing gays to get married it changes the definition of my marriage.

This isn't to say that gays shouldn't be entitled to have the exact same rights I have being married. You just can't call it a marriage.
You are basing your decision on the fear that someone may think you are married to a man instead of a woman?!? WEAK!!
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the arguement for the 'no' crowd is generally based on a religious theme, and basing shit on stuff that can NOT be proven is not logical...
Plus... did you know that the Bible never dictates what a marriage ceremony should be? We know that the Bible condoned marriage, for their are many mentions of man and wife (though there is never a mention of both of them having schlongs.) We also know that JC condoned marriage, since he went to a wedding, brought the wine, and signed a 1 picture deal with Mel Gibson. However, the good book never dictates what a marriage should be. For all we know, the ancient ceremony consisted 4 men throwing a dinner party and listening to Andrew Lloyd Webber records.
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his parents are married, and straight too.
think about that !

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There must be at least 5,000 same sex coupls that are married by now in the US, I dont see any anarchy in the streets or any reason they should stop. Let people be happy. I hate watching people being opressed.

Only self-important assholes oppose gay marriage.
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What kind of retarded question is that?

Of course they should have the right.
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