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Old 06-12-2003, 03:33 PM   #1
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Hey Choker...Lick My Ass

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BTW, any tgp using this hacked script will be dealt with the same way your partner's TGP is being dealt with. Their trades will die, if they are hosted on a real host, unlike your partner who hosts on his mommy's home computer, the host will be sent a cease and desist. If that fails then the TGP's sponsors will be contacted. All of that TGP's trades will be offered free traffic from me to kill the trade. If all else fails, more of a hand on approach will be taken. Don't fuck with me Candyflip.
You had issue with Kal when he brought to your attention errors/bugs/security flaws with your program and what did you do? Banned him from using your programs. What did he decide to do? He wrote a program that has some of the same features as yours as well as some new ones, no security flaws as can be found in TTT, and a similar layout. The code is his own. If you even bothered to look at the code...you'd see that. Get your head out of your ass.

Your use of strong arm tactics like you mention in the post below are pretty funny. So funny that some people you've sent traffic to as a result have taken your traffic and continue to use the script. Please do take a more hands on approach, as it will only come back to bite YOU. Anything "hands on" done by you will be dealt with accordingly. As you will be the one in the wrong.

Once again...let me clarify this for you. CJOverkill does not = TTT. Check the code and you will see.

http://cjoverkill.icefire.org/

So Choker...with all due respect Go Fuck Yourself Dude
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Old 06-12-2003, 03:38 PM   #2
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What did he decide to do? He wrote a program that has some of the same features as yours as well as some new ones, no security flaws as can be found in TTT, and a similar layout.
ahh.. so he basicly copied it.. now it get it
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ahh.. so he basicly copied it.. now it get it
If by copy you mean wrote a program with similar features, some new features and less flaws, all while producing new code...then yeah, I guess he did copy it
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drama alert, drama alert.... i love this thread, along with the other one that i cant seem to find...

break out the popcorn! its gonna be a long night.
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Old 06-12-2003, 03:44 PM   #8
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anyone know any good warez sites that need a good script?
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glad i bought popcorn today and a case of cola. This should a cool thread.
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glad i bought popcorn today and a case of cola. This should a cool thread.
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yeah i also got me some pussy
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posted by your assbuddy:

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he admits it as well
way to go thieves
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i dont get it
I'm lost too.
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i dont get it
thought you asked me if i also got some pussy ;)
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I'm lost too.
i think all that cola is makin him tipsy.
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You people are insane. This is a competitive business.. this is like saying google copied yahoo.
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he admits it as well
way to go thieves
Rewrite doesn't mean copy does it? Inspiration and plagerism are two completely different things

But then again, Kal lives in Spain and English is like his 4th language...words get mixed up sometimes. CJOverkill is it's own code, not copied TTT code.
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he admits it as well
way to go thieves
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Rewrite doesn't mean copy does it? Inspiration and plagerism are two completely different things

But then again, Kal lives in Spain and English is like his 4th language...words get mixed up sometimes. CJOverkill is it's own code, not copied TTT code.
well if he can code a trading script he should be able to make his own admin too right? and not a complete copy of ttt
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i think all that cola is makin him tipsy.
He can drink as much cola as he wants - he still won't be me!!!
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Regardless of its a re-write or not, you or your friend could have at least took the time, to CHANGE THE FUCKING LOOK, of it...

Had that been done, all the drama probably doesnt exist... IMO
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You people are insane. This is a competitive business.. this is like saying google copied yahoo.
stupid analogy

google didn't copy yahoo's interface

they also never said "google search engine is a rewrite of yahoo with extra features added"
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i knew there was a tipsy on here somewhere
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stupid analogy

google didn't copy yahoo's interface

they also never said "google search engine is a rewrite of yahoo with extra features added"
wow.. big deal.. it has the same look.

Compare vbulletin to one of the many other php boards out there and see if you notice anything similar.


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Regardless of its a re-write or not, you or your friend could have at least took the time, to CHANGE THE FUCKING LOOK, of it...

Had that been done, all the drama probably doesnt exist... IMO
We'll take the drama. The layout looks the way it does for that reason, and it seems to have worked. Choker's panties are in a twist, and if he even bothered to check out the code...he'd see that it's not TTT. The script is already being downloaded by quite a few people coming from this thread. That we can deal with.
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both scripts have a main folder + admin folder + toplist folder. coincidence?


main folder of both scripts. notice anything similar?





admin folder of both scripts. notice anything similar?





toplist folder of both scripts. notice anything similar?





the first template that comes with both scripts. notice anything similar?





not to mention the admin area is almost an exact copy.

Enough said. I'm out of this discussion. Choker will do whatever he needs to do.
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hehe looks like choker paid someone for broke for their legs or whatever .. someone wrote in his forum..

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both scripts have a main folder + admin folder + toplist folder. coincidence?


main folder of both scripts. notice anything similar?





admin folder of both scripts. notice anything similar?





toplist folder of both scripts. notice anything similar?





the first template that comes with both scripts. notice anything similar?





not to mention the admin area is almost an exact copy.

Enough said. I'm out of this discussion. Choker will do whatever he needs to do.
Again...the code running the script is not the same. Looks can be decieving
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hehe looks like choker paid someone for broke for their legs or whatever .. someone wrote in his forum..

That's because he has no other recourse. The script is not a copy, so there's nothing else he can do but resort to his (illegal) strong arm tactics.
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This is a perfect example of how this business constantly evolves.

If you build a better product, they will come.

I hope Choker responds not by insulting or physically threating anyone, but by creating and improving his own script.

Good luck and I hope the better product wins.
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OMG phpBB and vBulletin both have an images and admin folder.. holy shit and the same index.php file.. fucking cheaters!

If the source code is original, the product is legit. Get over it.

Maybe Choker feels threatened by this product? He thinks his own script will not sell because someone has made a better one and offered it for free.. I sense a little insecurity, probably just me though.
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OMG phpBB and vBulletin both have an images and admin folder.. holy shit and the same index.php file.. fucking cheaters!

If the source code is original, the product is legit. Get over it.

Maybe Choker feels threatened by this product? He thinks his own script will not sell because someone has made a better one and offered it for free.. I sense a little insecurity, probably just me though.
Neither are really "free". Choker takes 2% and we're taking 1%. But other than that...you're probably right on.
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Hahaha.. Just saw the admin for TTT.. I agree they are identical but my opinion still stands. If the source code is original, the product is legit.
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Neither are really "free". Choker takes 2% and we're taking 1%. But other than that...you're probably right on.
OK, to end it all I will make my own version of these 2 scripts and give it out 100% free, no traffic taken out, no banners, nothing.
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This is a perfect example of how this business constantly evolves.

If you build a better product, they will come.

I hope Choker responds not by insulting or physically threating anyone, but by creating and improving his own script.

Good luck and I hope the better product wins.
He's already thrown the insults and the threats.
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He's already thrown the insults and the threats.
candyflip

are you the person who wrote this script?

tough to say but the folders look the same, hope Choker has some good IP lawyers.
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OK, to end it all I will make my own version of these 2 scripts and give it out 100% free, no traffic taken out, no banners, nothing.
Check out the CJOVerkill license. If you so chose, you can use CJOverkill as the basis for a version of your own or contribute to the cause and make additions to the core of the code.

The goal of this project is to provide the best trading script available. Not the best free script...the best script.
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candyflip

are you the person who wrote this script?

tough to say but the folders look the same, hope Choker has some good IP lawyers.
It's not worth it trying to sue someone over a script that has similar folder names.

I mean, c'mon...
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OK, to end it all I will make my own version of these 2 scripts and give it out 100% free, no traffic taken out, no banners, nothing.
Sounds good to me.
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So lets see here, some loser admittedly copies Chokers script and then has his boyfriend come on this board to tell everyone about it and slam Choker whiles he's at it.

These are the cocksuckers that this business could do without.

You wont last long dude.
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So lets see here, some loser admittedly copies Chokers script and then has his boyfriend come on this board to tell everyone about it and slam Choker whiles he's at it.

These are the cocksuckers that this business could do without.

You wont last long dude.
Uh...nope. We actually made an announcement a few weeks ago. This is just a response to Choker's threats and name calling.

Isn't this what GFY is all about?

Adult Monger trade script is pretty good too. Thanks for chiming in.
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So lets see here, some loser admittedly copies Chokers script and then has his boyfriend come on this board to tell everyone about it and slam Choker whiles he's at it.

These are the cocksuckers that this business could do without.

You wont last long dude.


hehe funny , we can call you girlfriend of choker ?
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hehe funny , we can call you girlfriend of choker ?
No...we can call him promoter (owner/author?) of another Free Trade script.
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As an impartial third party I'd have to say after just looking at the demo of cjOverkill that it looks like a copy. I don't give a shit if the guy did do all the coding himself... would it be so hard to also change the format/layout too?
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I think clickzs was first.
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There could be some really cool patents for this biz -- but it's really hard to tell who has first-use -- there were non-adult guys doing hardcore scripts way back in the day... you would read about the startups in WIRED magazine... but most of these scripts are born out of the necessity of the way the internet works... nobody really invented electricity -- we just discovered it...

There are some obscure scripted sites that broke new ground way back but they faded out -- like the old Monkey links multi-category toplist was an amazing script and the complete-free porndirectory was really some impressive code... but who really knows what innovations came first -- that code never gets released to the public...

When you release source code to the public you only set yourself up for trouble unless you obfuscate your code.
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As an impartial third party I'd have to say after just looking at the demo of cjOverkill that it looks like a copy. I don't give a shit if the guy did do all the coding himself... would it be so hard to also change the format/layout too?
This was already addressed. The layout looks the way it does for a reason. See the response it has generated. It's just a few basic HTML tables...there aren't too many ways to do that
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