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Old 09-18-2003, 01:53 AM   #1
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Fuck Spamcop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These assholes keep blocking my ip's on real optin mailings, they dont even check if its spam, then they go and do a thing they call "LARTING" they send your isp or host 3000 to 5000 emails complaining about you! if that aint unsolicited what the fuck is?

I USE 100% WORKING OPTOUT LINKS except when spamcop bitches to my host and they disable the dns.

so basicly these hahahahas dont check even if its spam, then they block the only way to fucking optout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

burn in hell you motherfuckers!!!!
your gonna get everything you fucking deserve
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Old 09-18-2003, 01:57 AM   #2
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i believe it.

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Old 09-18-2003, 02:10 AM   #3
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Old 09-18-2003, 03:47 AM   #4
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Spamcop rocks.
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Old 09-18-2003, 03:48 AM   #5
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Old 09-18-2003, 06:07 AM   #6
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Old 09-18-2003, 06:20 AM   #7
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They help me a lot. They stop A LOT of the spam Ï'm getting.
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Old 09-18-2003, 06:36 AM   #8
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They help me a lot. They stop A LOT of the spam Ï'm getting.
for every good thing they do, theres 5 bad things
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Old 09-18-2003, 06:38 AM   #9
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yea they can fuck you up... a guy i know was larted and hes trying to sue.. fuck spam cop
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Old 09-18-2003, 06:53 AM   #10
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They help me a lot. They stop A LOT of the spam Ï'm getting.
Third party filters block a lot of legitimate email, especially if you're an adult webmaster. Use Mailwasher. That leaves you in complete control of your filters.
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Old 09-18-2003, 06:55 AM   #11
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then they go and do a thing they call "LARTING" they send your isp or host 3000 to 5000 emails complaining about you! if that aint unsolicited what the fuck is?

DAMN,, no shit this is the first time i heard this "LARTING"

whats fucked up is that sounds like a mail bomb which is illegal
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Old 09-18-2003, 06:55 AM   #12
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Yup me too... They are blocking all my legit emails...

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Old 09-18-2003, 07:16 AM   #13
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Bill hate spam too
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/o...-23wsjspam.asp
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Old 09-18-2003, 07:20 AM   #14
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Welcome to the wonderful world of email marketing. The fuckers at Spamcop are a bunch of lowlife scumbags. They need a good old fashioned beating.
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Old 09-18-2003, 07:28 AM   #15
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Welcome to the wonderful world of email marketing. The fuckers at Spamcop are a bunch of lowlife scumbags. They need a good old fashioned beating.
But my bet is that you'll be the one getting the good old fashioned beating if they show up
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Old 09-18-2003, 07:31 AM   #16
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for every good thing they do, theres 5 bad things
Your ping flood dosen't work.
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Old 09-18-2003, 08:09 AM   #17
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Your ping flood dosen't work.

works on bsd
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Old 09-18-2003, 09:11 AM   #18
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These assholes keep blocking my ip's on real optin mailings, they dont even check if its spam, then they go and do a thing they call "LARTING" they send your isp or host 3000 to 5000 emails complaining about you! if that aint unsolicited what the fuck is?

I USE 100% WORKING OPTOUT LINKS except when spamcop bitches to my host and they disable the dns.

so basicly these hahahahas dont check even if its spam, then they block the only way to fucking optout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

burn in hell you motherfuckers!!!!
your gonna get everything you fucking deserve
Spamcop functions on a complaint basis. If they're sending 3000 to 5000 emails to your host, you're mailing is generating 3000 to 5000 complaints. Spamcop doesn't review complaints to see if they're valid, they're basically a complaint forwarding service. Sometimes legitmate mail generates complaints but its very rare.

I don't see how you can get 3000 complaints if you're mailing a real opt-in list. By real I mean the customer opted to recieve the mail you're sending, not that they opted in to get recipies and you're sending them porn. When we mail our optin lists, our complaint rate is about 1:500,000. To get 3000 complaints we'd have to send about 1.5 billion messages a day.

Also, if your host disables your dns and you're concerned about people not being able to opt out, make that link an ip instead of a name.
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Old 09-18-2003, 09:32 AM   #19
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Spamcop functions on a complaint basis. If they're sending 3000 to 5000 emails to your host, you're mailing is generating 3000 to 5000 complaints. Spamcop doesn't review complaints to see if they're valid, they're basically a complaint forwarding service. Sometimes legitmate mail generates complaints but its very rare.

I don't see how you can get 3000 complaints if you're mailing a real opt-in list. By real I mean the customer opted to recieve the mail you're sending, not that they opted in to get recipies and you're sending them porn. When we mail our optin lists, our complaint rate is about 1:500,000. To get 3000 complaints we'd have to send about 1.5 billion messages a day.

Also, if your host disables your dns and you're concerned about people not being able to opt out, make that link an ip instead of a name.

are you stupid?
THEY DO A THING CALLED LARTING!!!
i generate 5 to 10 complaints while mailing my 200k list, they are visible on spamcop, these assholes can optout anytime, the operation they run is illegal.
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Old 09-18-2003, 09:40 AM   #20
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You do know what larting means don't you?

http://www.elsewhere.org/jargon/html/entry/LART.html
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Old 09-18-2003, 09:44 AM   #21
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Old 09-18-2003, 09:50 AM   #22
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You do know what larting means don't you?

http://www.elsewhere.org/jargon/html/entry/LART.html

why dont you join the spamcop forum(you would feel more comfortable amoung other "rodents") and read their translation of "larting", its slanderous, annoying and borderline illegal, aswell as hypocritical to their "cause" or should i say shameless quest for quick money.
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Old 09-18-2003, 09:50 AM   #23
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Sometimes legitmate mail generates complaints but its very rare.


Very rare is not the word i use but rather more often legit mails can get complaints quite often
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Old 09-18-2003, 09:55 AM   #24
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why dont you join the spamcop forum(you would feel more comfortable amoung other "rodents") and read their translation of "larting", its slanderous, annoying and borderline illegal, aswell as hypocritical to their "cause" or should i say shameless quest for quick money.
Its not my problem you don't know how to run your mailing list. I'm sure your attitude helps the situation.
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Its not my problem you don't know how to run your mailing list. I'm sure your attitude helps the situation.

why the fuck should i have a positive attitude to spamcops illegal, highly costly activities?

i tell ya, if i was in the US, i would have smashed julians haights face to fucking peices by now, i mean that so much, and if he ever steps foot in australian, thats going to happen.
i will put 2 years of my life aside in jail to see him bleed and scream
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Well, what do you expect?

to 99% if people try to unsubscribe they just verify their email address and it's then given out to 100 other spammers...
You can't blame them to go directly to spamcop and report you! Even if it is -as you claim- a real double opt-in list!

Blame all other spammers that cause people to react this way!

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Old 09-18-2003, 10:08 AM   #27
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Old 09-18-2003, 10:10 AM   #28
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Old 09-18-2003, 10:17 AM   #29
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Well, what do you expect?

to 99% if people try to unsubscribe they just verify their email address and it's then given out to 100 other spammers...
You can't blame them to go directly to spamcop and report you! Even if it is -as you claim- a real double opt-in list!

Blame all other spammers that cause people to react this way!

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ok for the idiot:

why would a "spammer" want to keep an address that wants to optout? commen sense tells me that they would want to remove them because:

A)they complain, bringing heat on his/her mailings
B)they definatly wont buy anything.

your talking like a spamcop pro, now heres a nice big cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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why the fuck should i have a positive attitude to spamcops illegal, highly costly activities?

i tell ya, if i was in the US, i would have smashed julians haights face to fucking peices by now, i mean that so much, and if he ever steps foot in australian, thats going to happen.
i will put 2 years of my life aside in jail to see him bleed and scream

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Don't let your ego get in the way of making money.
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Old 09-18-2003, 11:12 AM   #31
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ok for the idiot:

why would a "spammer" want to keep an address that wants to optout? commen sense tells me that they would want to remove them because:

A)they complain, bringing heat on his/her mailings
B)they definatly wont buy anything.

your talking like a spamcop pro, now heres a nice big cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP!
1.) Not all of the complain
2.) The original spammer doesn't give a fuck if they want to buy something! They will know that it is an email address that is actively checked and hence they sell it to others! Do you know the value of such email addresses? Probably not but they are worth quite a bit... otherwise spammers would just run dictionaries on mail servers for possible email addresses....


Oh, you never noticed that when you unsubscribed from a list that you got the next day 10 times more email from different spammers?

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Old 09-18-2003, 11:26 AM   #32
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3000 - 5000 spam cop complaints on a opt in list? check your mailer.. you might be mail bombing the first person on your list who is a spam cop
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3000 - 5000 spam cop complaints on a opt in list? check your mailer.. you might be mail bombing the first person on your list who is a spam cop

5 or 10 complaints, for which they send 3000 to your upstream isp.

i doubt i even get 5 complaints, im pretty convinced they just make it up
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Just a question.....

Is it spam if you email your own Yahoo Group or MSN Group adult porn?
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spamcop is on the payout like any other corrupt organization



they are as valiant and nobel as our congressmen and other moral, honest, ethical politicians....
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Old 09-18-2003, 07:27 PM   #36
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "me" <xxxxxxxx>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:39 AM
> Subject: illegal blocking
>
>
> you keep blocking my emails to my mailing list and causing problems on my
> hosting server.
>
> all of my recipients are genuine subscribers collected from my old site
> fuckcams4free.net(which you also disrupted and is temporeraly down)
> i use 100% working optout links except for the times when you disrupt my
> server and the subscribers cannot reach the optout script because you give
> my host problems.
>
> im warning you if this does not stop i will use all my availible resources
> to disrupt spamcops illegal operation.
> if you dont belive me i will give you a little show.
>
> i do not and never have generated email addresses, i never have and do not
> harvest email addresses.
> i use working optout links through the subscribe me lite email script.
>
> so go ahead and "lart" my isp, it will give me more ammunition for legal
> recourse.
>
> i will not warn you again, your on dangerous ground. terminate your illegal
> blocking and reporting of my legitimate email or i will persue you in every
> way.
>
> my current ip is xxxxxxxxxxx as you can see in my email headers.


little bitches reply:

Hi me.

Your threats make me laugh. You are a spammer. How can you even try to
claim otherwise? You use the colombian tld for your email, send spam to a
porn list from australia for viagra using japanese domains. I'm sure all
that is just to fight back against us communist antis..

You are clearly lying about opt-in. You are sending mail to my spamtraps
- addresses that cannot subscribe for anything.

Thanks for calling attention to yourself though. I notice SpamCop isn't
finding your upstream ISP accurately. I'll fix that now.

-=Julian=-
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Old 09-18-2003, 07:30 PM   #37
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Just a question.....

Is it spam if you email your own Yahoo Group or MSN Group adult porn?
no. but spamcop will call it spam and get your yahoo/msn accounts terminated, then go after your isp
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are you stupid?
THEY DO A THING CALLED LARTING!!!
i generate 5 to 10 complaints while mailing my 200k list, they are visible on spamcop, these assholes can optout anytime, the operation they run is illegal.
#1 .. get a new ISP that is cool with you mailing and isn't gonna disable your DNS ..cause of gay fuck spam cop
#2 .. If your getting 10 complaints off of 200k names on a real opt-in list .. your mailing WAY TO FREEQUENTLY .. or you need to change something about your opt-in ..
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