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Petr · 11-26-2003, 08:47 AM

Important Notice for Jettis EU Clients
November 25, 2003
Dear Jettis EU Client,

As we are sure you are aware, we have witnessed significant changes in the High Risk processing Industry over the past year, but none quite as dramatic as the past six months. Due to the increased scrutiny of this industry by the credit card associations, our EU bank just notified us that it has decided to close this portion of their portfolio as of Friday, November 28, 2003. As a result, we will no longer be able to process your Visa EU transactions after that date. For clarification purposes, Jettis' accounts were in good standing. The bank notified us that their decision to no longer support the processing activities of adult IPSP's was widespread and was not aimed solely at Jettis. It is important to note that this notice has no effect whatsoever on Jettis clients based in the US.

Obviously, this short notice has not left much time to make preparations for Visa processing for our EU clients. We will still continue to process your MasterCard, Discover and ACH transactions without any interruption. We sincerely regret that we were unable to give you greater notice and we realize that this short notice can create a hardship. While we are searching for alternative EU solutions for our clients, we are unable to ensure that we will have them in place by the date referenced above. If you have questions about these changes, we encourage you to contact our Client Services department by telephone at 818-597-4705 or via email at [email protected].

Sincerely,

Team Jettis

BRISK · 11-26-2003, 08:52 AM

Darkystar · 11-26-2003, 09:00 AM

damn...did Jettis use the same EU bank as CCBILL does now?

Theo · 11-26-2003, 09:01 AM

well now this are big news

angelsofporn · 11-26-2003, 09:05 AM

what bank is it

doober · 11-26-2003, 09:05 AM

is this because jettis is in California and is US based corp?
Does ccbill & ibill have actual offices in the EU?

Petr · 11-26-2003, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober
is this because jettis is in California and is US based corp?
Does ccbill & ibill have actual offices in the EU?

AFAIK Jettis has/had a company in UK

BRISK · 11-26-2003, 09:14 AM

Hopefully they're not just starting their search for an alternate bank now. I would have thought they would have a backup (assuming one was available) waiting and available to take over should things go down the shitter with their current bank.

Theo · 11-26-2003, 09:17 AM

let's hope they wont pick the same bank with porncash

Eman - PG · 11-26-2003, 09:36 AM

wow so who's left? Ibill, CCBill and Verotel?

polish_aristocrat · 11-26-2003, 09:37 AM

Is it the end od the world?

directfiesta · 11-26-2003, 09:39 AM

Bad news.

But a simple conclusion is this:

US originating IPS , even if they opened a EU corp. will eventually loose their processing in Europe., even for EU clients.

They will be fine to process US corp in the US.

EU clients will have to find/go with real EU processor.

Daymare · 11-26-2003, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eman - PG
wow so who's left? Ibill, CCBill and Verotel?

and probilling

Bansheelinks · 11-26-2003, 09:50 AM

Daymare quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Eman - PG
wow so who's left? Ibill, CCBill and Verotel?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

and probilling

*********************

LOL, and you say Probilling? Get real. If Jettis has their VISA Europe privileges stripped away, what do you think will happen to Probilling in the end?

They will be nuked like all the others, or globilled, or whatever you want to call it.

abdab_1 · 11-26-2003, 09:56 AM

Folks I keep telling you all there is a UK CC Processor. Less than 10% for Processing :-)

They are happy to work with adult, the only reason I dont post their name is that I am working on a referal basis :-)

With regard to the above post we can (Nochex) offer you a solution for the UK card holders.

Get in touch, for CC Processing [email protected]

for non CC Processing [email protected]

I hope to hear from you :-)

Madball · 11-26-2003, 10:21 AM

This is one hell of a big annoucement.

Remains to be seen if CCBILL and IBILL EU are hit by this as well.

doober · 11-26-2003, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by abdab_1
Folks I keep telling you all there is a UK CC Processor. Less than 10% for Processing :-)

They are happy to work with adult, the only reason I dont post their name is that I am working on a referal basis :-)

With regard to the above post we can (Nochex) offer you a solution for the UK card holders.

Get in touch, for CC Processing [email protected]

for non CC Processing [email protected]

I hope to hear from you :-)

hmmm so we should contact you for a solid processor using your hotmail addy....sounds very tempting...

abdab_1 · 11-26-2003, 10:45 AM

No I get your point thing is I worlk for Nochex Mon Fri

so what I try and do on the weekend and evenings is resell billing solutions, after all its all I know about in this adult world.

The company I promote on an evening have the added bonus of being able to offer Nochex within their product.

I have to use my hotmail account as I dont want this mail coming to my work account.

doober · 11-26-2003, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by abdab_1
No I get your point thing is I worlk for Nochex Mon Fri

so what I try and do on the weekend and evenings is resell billing solutions, after all its all I know about in this adult world.

The company I promote on an evening have the added bonus of being able to offer Nochex within their product.

I have to use my hotmail account as I dont want this mail coming to my work account.

post the name and if its real Im positive people would still signup under you for telling them about it or else you loose all credibility

Yakuza · 11-26-2003, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober

post the name and if its real Im positive people would still signup under you for telling them about it or else you loose all credibility

actually.. it's good idea..

Jizar II · 11-26-2003, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yakuza

actually.. it's good idea..

yep

abdab_1 · 11-26-2003, 11:03 AM

Thanks

But at the moment I would rather loose the credibility. I think there is enough people who post here who know me well enough to trust me.

I cant post on this board from home as my ISP is blocked so I have to do it cloak and dagger style.

Dont get me wrong I want every possible lead I can get, by the current issue surrounding processors means my contacts are well sort after.

I have had three mails today from this post, if I post the company name I am not going to get any business and that doober is a fact.

:-)

Yakuza · 11-26-2003, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by abdab_1
Thanks

But at the moment I would rather loose the credibility. I think there is enough people who post here who know me well enough to trust me.

I cant post on this board from home as my ISP is blocked so I have to do it cloak and dagger style.

Dont get me wrong I want every possible lead I can get, by the current issue surrounding processors means my contacts are well sort after.

I have had three mails today from this post, if I post the company name I am not going to get any business and that doober is a fact.

:-)

how can I trust u if ur behaviour is absurd ;-(

Kimmykim · 11-26-2003, 11:18 AM

So classy to spam in someone else's announcement thread.

Paul Markham · 11-26-2003, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober

hmmm so we should contact you for a solid processor using your hotmail addy....sounds very tempting...

Paul is genuine, he has said he is doing this on a referal basis.

Paul Markham · 11-26-2003, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
So classy to spam in someone else's announcement thread.

He was trying to offer an alternative to not having a CC processor. The original post was an anouncement, Paul was trying to help.

doober · 11-26-2003, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Paul is genuine, he has said he is doing this on a referal basis.

Quote:

Originally posted by doober

post the name and if its real Im positive people would still signup under you for telling them about it or else you loose all credibility

Youy may know him, but do I know him?
Do i know you?
Who am i trusting here and what is the basis of that trust?

My above statement still stands and gurantee he will loose 0 referrals if he does just that.

doober · 11-26-2003, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
He was trying to offer an alternative to not having a CC processor. The original post was an anouncement, Paul was trying to help.

Quote:

Originally posted by abdab_1
Folks I keep telling you all there is a UK CC Processor. Less than 10% for Processing :-)

They are happy to work with adult, the only reason I dont post their name is that I am working on a referal basis :-)

Get in touch, for CC Processing [email protected]

Thee Johnclave · 11-26-2003, 12:33 PM

We've never been one to keep all our eggs in one basket and have been, and continue, to work on an alternate option for our EU clients.

The lack of notice of this event was unfortunate and unexpected as our accounts were in good standing with our EU bank, however we are exhausting all resources to provide another option for our EU clients, ASAP, and will be in communication on the options available moving forward.

John
Jettis, Inc.

DatingGold · 11-26-2003, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Petr
Important Notice for Jettis EU Clients
November 25, 2003
Dear Jettis EU Client,

As we are sure you are aware, we have witnessed significant changes in the High Risk processing Industry over the past year, but none quite as dramatic as the past six months. Due to the increased scrutiny of this industry by the credit card associations, our EU bank just notified us that it has decided to close this portion of their portfolio as of Friday, November 28, 2003. As a result, we will no longer be able to process your Visa EU transactions after that date. For clarification purposes, Jettis' accounts were in good standing. The bank notified us that their decision to no longer support the processing activities of adult IPSP's was widespread and was not aimed solely at Jettis. It is important to note that this notice has no effect whatsoever on Jettis clients based in the US.

Obviously, this short notice has not left much time to make preparations for Visa processing for our EU clients. We will still continue to process your MasterCard, Discover and ACH transactions without any interruption. We sincerely regret that we were unable to give you greater notice and we realize that this short notice can create a hardship. While we are searching for alternative EU solutions for our clients, we are unable to ensure that we will have them in place by the date referenced above. If you have questions about these changes, we encourage you to contact our Client Services department by telephone at 818-597-4705 or via email at [email protected].

Sincerely,

Team Jettis

Happy Thanksgiving..

makefuckingmoney · 11-26-2003, 01:10 PM

Dont blame Jettis..

I dont think I have seen too many outfits that are run better than that one!

I know.. shit one time I got into their office..of course..they threw me out shortly thereafter!

HunkyLuke · 11-26-2003, 02:50 PM

It would be REALLY REALLY nice if CCBill and IBill posted a "don't worry we are still here for our EU clients" announcement in this thread!!!!

cheers,

Luke

Petr · 11-26-2003, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
So classy to spam in someone else's announcement thread.

just for the record - I don't work for Jettis...

AngEl 3 · 11-26-2003, 03:32 PM

jettis are very good company

pity they have this problem.

the one way out is to use alternative cc processor for eu visa or to re-register account for us company.

i hope soon they'll found a way out..

anyway VISA sucks - they fuck adult biz so fucking hard that even best porn star can't do such a fucking around

Kimmykim · 11-26-2003, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Petr

just for the record - I don't work for Jettis...

LOL, I didnt mean you, you should know that.

And I dont particularly think that CCBill or IBill would be so tacky as to spam themselves in a thread about issues Jettis is having, chilihost.

Cirrus · 11-26-2003, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yakuza

how can I trust u if ur behaviour is absurd ;-(

Paul is real, no problem here....

Kimmykim · 11-26-2003, 04:23 PM

At the end of the day I would figure that Jettis will find a way to take care of their clients as quickly as possible. After all if the clients don't make any money, nor do they.

Groove · 11-26-2003, 06:51 PM

Bump.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-26-2003, 07:07 PM

Happy Holidays!!!

strobi · 11-26-2003, 07:08 PM

woooww!!

mryellow · 11-26-2003, 08:05 PM

We were in the middle of applying for EU based merchant
accounts a few months ago when Netbilling, oxbill, glo-bill and a
few others had trouble with accounts. ECB was setting us up
with a major bank which then dropped their "high risk" clients.
This seems to be the same thing that's happening to CCBillEU
(can't find the email just now) and PSWBilling with holdbacks.

I said at the time that if this kind of thing carries on it could be a
worry for non-US webmasters as the only way forward would be
to incorporate in the US and report to the IRS and US gov.

It's a conspiricy threoy still at this time but it could be that this is
part of a larger plan to force all webmasters to process in the US
which then makes them an easy target for the DOJ.

-Ben

Groove · 11-26-2003, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
We were in the middle of applying for EU based merchant
accounts a few months ago when Netbilling, oxbill, glo-bill and a
few others had trouble with accounts. ECB was setting us up
with a major bank which then dropped their "high risk" clients.
This seems to be the same thing that's happening to CCBillEU
(can't find the email just now) and PSWBilling with holdbacks.

What's happening with CCBillEU?

VirtuMike · 11-26-2003, 08:53 PM

Yeah this is pretty big. I hope this isn't the beginning of a bigger problem.

mryellow · 11-26-2003, 08:58 PM

Sorry it was a recent iBill email which I got confused.

-Ben

Quote:

October 31, 2003

Dear Client,

We notified you in a previous notice dated October 20, 2003 that our European processor and acquiring bank held our credit card reserves resulting in a suspension of your reserve payouts scheduled for October 21. As communicated in that correspondence, we have worked with the processor and bank to release the held funds for payout. These suspended reserve funds represent reserves held in March 2003 for February 2003 transactions.

We're pleased to notify you that we were successful in securing the release of the reserve funds and you will receive your suspended reserve payment on your next scheduled payout of November 5, 2003.

Please remember that all reserve payouts will be made to eligible clients unless held by our processor or acquiring bank. Please feel free to contact us with any questions you have at [email protected] or 954.363.4949.

Thank you for your business.

iBill

11-26-2003, 09:02 PM

thank God for Jesus Dialer.

Groove · 11-26-2003, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
Sorry it was a recent iBill email which I got confused.

-Ben

Do you know if IBill ever offered an explanation regarding
why the funds were frozen by their bank?

Shoplifter · 11-26-2003, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove

Do you know if IBill ever offered an explanation regarding
why the funds were frozen by their bank?

The Ibill holdback thing is nothing new. I heard it is because their previous bank is withholding their funds, not their current bank.

Would be nice to have some reassuring posts from Ibill nonetheless.

directfiesta · 11-26-2003, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
We were in the middle of applying for EU based merchant
accounts a few months ago when Netbilling, oxbill, glo-bill and a
few others had trouble with accounts. ECB was setting us up
with a major bank which then dropped their "high risk" clients.
This seems to be the same thing that's happening to CCBillEU
(can't find the email just now) and PSWBilling with holdbacks.

I said at the time that if this kind of thing carries on it could be a
worry for non-US webmasters as the only way forward would be
to incorporate in the US and report to the IRS and US gov.

It's a conspiricy threoy still at this time but it could be that this is
part of a larger plan to force all webmasters to process in the US
which then makes them an easy target for the DOJ.

-Ben

Pretty good summary of the big picture:

Like sheep dogs that keep the pact together ... ready for slaughter.

NETbilling · 11-26-2003, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
We were in the middle of applying for EU based merchant
accounts a few months ago when Netbilling, oxbill, glo-bill and a
few others had trouble with accounts. ECB was setting us up
with a major bank which then dropped their "high risk" clients.
This seems to be the same thing that's happening to CCBillEU
(can't find the email just now) and PSWBilling with holdbacks.

I said at the time that if this kind of thing carries on it could be a
worry for non-US webmasters as the only way forward would be
to incorporate in the US and report to the IRS and US gov.

It's a conspiricy threoy still at this time but it could be that this is
part of a larger plan to force all webmasters to process in the US
which then makes them an easy target for the DOJ.

-Ben

Ben,

We have some nice solutions now that you may be interested in.
Please contact our sales department or myself directly.

Thanks, Mitch

quiet · 11-26-2003, 10:05 PM

damn. getting more and more ugly for EU...

11-26-2003, 08:47 AM	#1
Petr Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 502	Jettis - No VISA for EU clients Important Notice for Jettis EU Clients November 25, 2003 Dear Jettis EU Client, As we are sure you are aware, we have witnessed significant changes in the High Risk processing Industry over the past year, but none quite as dramatic as the past six months. Due to the increased scrutiny of this industry by the credit card associations, our EU bank just notified us that it has decided to close this portion of their portfolio as of Friday, November 28, 2003. As a result, we will no longer be able to process your Visa EU transactions after that date. For clarification purposes, Jettis' accounts were in good standing. The bank notified us that their decision to no longer support the processing activities of adult IPSP's was widespread and was not aimed solely at Jettis. It is important to note that this notice has no effect whatsoever on Jettis clients based in the US. Obviously, this short notice has not left much time to make preparations for Visa processing for our EU clients. We will still continue to process your MasterCard, Discover and ACH transactions without any interruption. We sincerely regret that we were unable to give you greater notice and we realize that this short notice can create a hardship. While we are searching for alternative EU solutions for our clients, we are unable to ensure that we will have them in place by the date referenced above. If you have questions about these changes, we encourage you to contact our Client Services department by telephone at 818-597-4705 or via email at [email protected]. Sincerely, Team Jettis

11-26-2003, 08:52 AM	#2
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	wow __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

11-26-2003, 09:14 AM	#8
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Hopefully they're not just starting their search for an alternate bank now. I would have thought they would have a backup (assuming one was available) waiting and available to take over should things go down the shitter with their current bank. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

11-26-2003, 09:37 AM	#11
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,381	Is it the end od the world? __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

11-26-2003, 09:39 AM	#12
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Back to Montréal, ALIVE ! Posts: 29,031	Bad news. But a simple conclusion is this: US originating IPS , even if they opened a EU corp. will eventually loose their processing in Europe., even for EU clients. They will be fine to process US corp in the US. EU clients will have to find/go with real EU processor. __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

11-26-2003, 09:00 AM	#3
Darkystar Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 273	damn...did Jettis use the same EU bank as CCBILL does now?

11-26-2003, 09:01 AM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,524	well now this are big news

11-26-2003, 09:05 AM	#5
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	what bank is it

11-26-2003, 09:05 AM	#6
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	is this because jettis is in California and is US based corp? Does ccbill & ibill have actual offices in the EU?

11-26-2003, 09:17 AM	#9
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,524	let's hope they wont pick the same bank with porncash

11-26-2003, 09:36 AM	#10
Eman - PG PG Co-Boss Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: GFY Posts: 524	wow so who's left? Ibill, CCBill and Verotel?

11-26-2003, 09:50 AM	#14
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	Daymare quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Eman - PG wow so who's left? Ibill, CCBill and Verotel? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and probilling ********************* LOL, and you say Probilling? Get real. If Jettis has their VISA Europe privileges stripped away, what do you think will happen to Probilling in the end? They will be nuked like all the others, or globilled, or whatever you want to call it.

11-26-2003, 09:56 AM	#15
abdab_1 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 425	Folks I keep telling you all there is a UK CC Processor. Less than 10% for Processing :-) They are happy to work with adult, the only reason I dont post their name is that I am working on a referal basis :-) With regard to the above post we can (Nochex) offer you a solution for the UK card holders. Get in touch, for CC Processing [email protected] for non CC Processing [email protected] I hope to hear from you :-) __________________ <p><a href="http://support.nochex.com/adult/" target="_blank"> <img height="60" src="http://support.nochex.com/web/gfx/adult_anim_cards.gif"width="120 " border="0"></a></p> Convert All Your Traffic!

11-26-2003, 10:21 AM	#16
Madball Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 748	This is one hell of a big annoucement. Remains to be seen if CCBILL and IBILL EU are hit by this as well. __________________ <a href="http://www.homepageofthedead.com"><img src="http://board.gofuckyourself.com/images/globill_88x31.gif"></a>

11-26-2003, 10:45 AM	#18
abdab_1 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 425	No I get your point thing is I worlk for Nochex Mon Fri so what I try and do on the weekend and evenings is resell billing solutions, after all its all I know about in this adult world. The company I promote on an evening have the added bonus of being able to offer Nochex within their product. I have to use my hotmail account as I dont want this mail coming to my work account. __________________ <p><a href="http://support.nochex.com/adult/" target="_blank"> <img height="60" src="http://support.nochex.com/web/gfx/adult_anim_cards.gif"width="120 " border="0"></a></p> Convert All Your Traffic!

11-26-2003, 11:03 AM	#22
abdab_1 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 425	Thanks But at the moment I would rather loose the credibility. I think there is enough people who post here who know me well enough to trust me. I cant post on this board from home as my ISP is blocked so I have to do it cloak and dagger style. Dont get me wrong I want every possible lead I can get, by the current issue surrounding processors means my contacts are well sort after. I have had three mails today from this post, if I post the company name I am not going to get any business and that doober is a fact. :-) __________________ <p><a href="http://support.nochex.com/adult/" target="_blank"> <img height="60" src="http://support.nochex.com/web/gfx/adult_anim_cards.gif"width="120 " border="0"></a></p> Convert All Your Traffic!

11-26-2003, 11:18 AM	#24
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,016	So classy to spam in someone else's announcement thread.

11-26-2003, 12:33 PM	#29
Thee Johnclave The Billz Collectaz Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 632	We've never been one to keep all our eggs in one basket and have been, and continue, to work on an alternate option for our EU clients. The lack of notice of this event was unfortunate and unexpected as our accounts were in good standing with our EU bank, however we are exhausting all resources to provide another option for our EU clients, ASAP, and will be in communication on the options available moving forward. John Jettis, Inc. __________________ Seeking large traffic deals. john at pptme dot com

11-26-2003, 01:10 PM	#31
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	Dont blame Jettis.. I dont think I have seen too many outfits that are run better than that one! I know.. shit one time I got into their office..of course..they threw me out shortly thereafter!

11-26-2003, 02:50 PM	#32
HunkyLuke Virgin by request ;) Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,925	It would be REALLY REALLY nice if CCBill and IBill posted a "don't worry we are still here for our EU clients" announcement in this thread!!!! cheers, Luke

11-26-2003, 03:32 PM	#34
AngEl 3 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Heaven Posts: 47	jettis are very good company pity they have this problem. the one way out is to use alternative cc processor for eu visa or to re-register account for us company. i hope soon they'll found a way out.. anyway VISA sucks - they fuck adult biz so fucking hard that even best porn star can't do such a fucking around Last edited by AngEl 3; 11-26-2003 at 03:36 PM..

11-26-2003, 04:23 PM	#37
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,016	At the end of the day I would figure that Jettis will find a way to take care of their clients as quickly as possible. After all if the clients don't make any money, nor do they.

11-26-2003, 06:51 PM	#38
Groove Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,852	Bump.

11-26-2003, 07:07 PM	#39
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11-26-2003, 07:08 PM	#40
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	woooww!!

11-26-2003, 08:05 PM	#41
mryellow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 934	We were in the middle of applying for EU based merchant accounts a few months ago when Netbilling, oxbill, glo-bill and a few others had trouble with accounts. ECB was setting us up with a major bank which then dropped their "high risk" clients. This seems to be the same thing that's happening to CCBillEU (can't find the email just now) and PSWBilling with holdbacks. I said at the time that if this kind of thing carries on it could be a worry for non-US webmasters as the only way forward would be to incorporate in the US and report to the IRS and US gov. It's a conspiricy threoy still at this time but it could be that this is part of a larger plan to force all webmasters to process in the US which then makes them an easy target for the DOJ. -Ben __________________ Cyberwurx Hosting After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best. Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime. Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks. <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

11-26-2003, 08:53 PM	#43
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11-26-2003, 09:02 PM	#45
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	thank God for Jesus Dialer.

11-26-2003, 10:05 PM	#50
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	damn. getting more and more ugly for EU... __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP