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04-22-2011, 04:50 PM | #1 |
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*reliable programmer wanted - having some sanity is a plus *
At that time again where I just can't find a good fit for a programmer to be reliable on an ongoing basis.
I have small changes I do once in a while, and also start small, medium and large projects as they come up. Looking for 1 programmer to rely on. I have an email thread that includes about 60 separate emails from last programmer in which I asked him to send information over to a program via an API. In an effort to gain some sanity back I want to ask any programmer interested in a new client to review what I endured and to comment. I will put everything in an easy word document and then I ask you to comment. Was it really necessary to waste so much time on such an easy task? If interested, please email me at webmaster at danaughty [dot] com |
04-22-2011, 04:52 PM | #2 |
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try hitting up scriptworkz, not sure if its busy.
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04-22-2011, 04:53 PM | #3 |
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You already know that I ask too many questions, but I would be glad to take a look and comment away if you want. sarettah at hatterasdesigns dot com . |
04-22-2011, 04:58 PM | #4 |
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sane? Really? thats asking a lot!
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04-22-2011, 07:29 PM | #6 |
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Thank you for those who emailed me. I just fired off an email with a word doc I put together of "most" emails. The document is 35 pages long and occurred over the last 3 days.
It is totally unnacceptable to me to hire somebody to do what I feel is pretty simple and completely and totally occupy 3 days of my time with redundant, unnecessary, email questions, comments, concerns etc. I pay for results... I would learn the language if I cared to program myself. |
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04-22-2011, 09:01 PM | #8 |
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The ONLY man for the job is the mighty Woj. Did my entire affiliate program and more. Top notch.
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04-23-2011, 02:18 PM | #10 |
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Hmm. I didn't get a copy of the word doc and I'm not seeing much comments. What's up with that?
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04-23-2011, 04:04 PM | #11 |
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Also, just curious about this but how how many people have you sent it to ? and what were their reactions? , |
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04-23-2011, 04:54 PM | #13 |
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By the way, after reading the entire word doc you sent, you do not want a programmer. You want a webmaster with strong programming skills, or a secretary with strong programming skills, not sure which one fits better.
Programing is a specific part of web development and while there are many programmers that will mess with pages and shit (myself included) many only mess with programming code. Just as there are many designers who will mess with programming stuff there are just as many that restrict themselves to html, css and photoshop. From what I read you need more of a jack of all trades rather than just a programmer. Just my |
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04-23-2011, 05:21 PM | #15 | |
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Maybe you didn't understand completely but when I ask him to put stuff like the correct affiliate code in... its because I was on my cell phone and away. Not by a computer to upload and change anything. No, I do not want a jack of all trades... I want a PROGRAMMER. php, html, mysql, all the stuff that goes into most websites. Not a designer, not someone to update site, someone to change code in the database, create databases, API's, etc. etc. Who have you PROGRAMMED for? Would love to ask them. |
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04-23-2011, 05:33 PM | #16 | ||
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As far as my qualifications to make comment. Here is a thread I put up a couple of years ago, some is out of date. http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...ght=programmer Sanitized version of my day job resume (also out of date but only on what projects I have accomplished) http://www.madspiders.com/resume.htm You still want to discuss anything? . |
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04-23-2011, 05:34 PM | #17 |
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See my sig for details. Ask them all you want, they'll tell you I'm reliable and quick.
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04-23-2011, 05:40 PM | #18 |
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04-23-2011, 05:43 PM | #19 |
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@ sarettah -
Do you see what you've gone and done by bringing up my quote regarding "and comment". I'm privately emailing people with what I feel is an outlandish break in communication and you've now brought up that I did not specifically say to comment to me (which is implied by the fact that i'm privately emailing you). See what I mean? |
04-23-2011, 05:49 PM | #20 | |
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It is a poor communicator that blames the receiver for not receiving the message properly. You have an email with 3 references. |
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04-23-2011, 06:02 PM | #21 |
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Btw, that is why I ask a lot of questions up front, to ensure that there is NOT any miscommunication, to make sure that when all parties are talking about the same thing. But thats just me.
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04-23-2011, 06:12 PM | #22 | |
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I completely understood that he wanted private comments to the email he was sending out. Even if you had been in doubt, you should have just kept quiet to be sure. What you've gone and done is pretty much what he was complaining about regarding the other programmer. See my first paragraph. |
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04-23-2011, 06:40 PM | #23 | |
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2. I did not understand that he wanted the discussion private I took that his "he did not want to exploit" that he did not want to go into detail about what he said or the programmer said, which I did not. I did not reveal what I read. I merely stated my opinion that I thought he needed something other than a straight programmer. There are some very good webmasters out there that can handle many programming tasks, html, database work, script installs, the whole ball of wax and I merely stated that from what I read that I thought that was what he needed. You would not want a jack of all trades to do a large programming project perhaps but as far as maintenance stuff combined with server tasks, etc. That is often the better way to go and usually a whole lot cheaper. . |
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04-23-2011, 06:53 PM | #24 |
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A potential customer is the same as a current customer.
If he had wanted things public he would have posted it in the thread. Since he didn't, it should have been easy to assume he wanted private communications. Can't agree with that unless funds are limited... If you get a jack of all trades, then any real programming won't be done as well as a real programmer would do it which could just end up being a mess down the road. A programmer should have a couple rates IMO. One for general type crap and then one for actual programming. |
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I'd be curious to take a look at that document if you'd like to e-mail it over, albright/toomuchmedia/com
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I think his chance of being a potential customer ended right about here http://gofuckyourself.com/showpost.p...3&postcount=34
In this thread right here http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=997676 Quote:
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I don't know the whole backstory but this eerily reminds me of a few clients that I had back when I was doing freelancing (the kind to call you up & ask to change the aff codes because they're not at the computer). They usually want all of your time and want you to be their personal web assistant, for the lack of a better word... but of course they're not willing to pay market programmer rates for this type of work. Don't get me wrong though, there's a lot flakes out there too. Drama or compiling word documents doesn't solve anything. So it didn't work out, this happens to thousands of people thousands times a day. Find a new programmer, fire them upon first sign of flakeage. Once you hear the first excuse of why work wasn't done, it ain't gonna get better from there. Cut losses & move on. Or hire a well known company that won't flake (at higher hourly rates, obviously)
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04-23-2011, 07:55 PM | #29 | |
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Selective reading syndrome I guess. And if you check his next "looking for a programmer" thread you will see that he states that he was looking for me. Carzy has never said he wouldn't want to use me, although he might say that now. My indication that he is no longer a potential customer is from my end, not his. . |
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04-23-2011, 08:16 PM | #30 | |
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You read that document... you know he was programming the API as that entire email thread was going on. I told him numerous times to just make sure the API code was the one I wanted because I wasn't around my computer. This was not a separate request from me to just ask him to insert some code. As to another comment I read somewhere. I want the programming done as fast as possible and be done with it. I do not want to call on a programmer to change affiliate codes. Russ, you know that was going on in that HELL of an email thread to get API programming done. Not even commenting about hiring you, not hiring you. I think you've come to the correct conclusion and reason being exactly why I had such a problem with the past programmer. |
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04-23-2011, 08:43 PM | #31 | |
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I don't know if you were around when Dravyk was around or know of him. He owned allofthem.com and also had a software package that he had developed (using various programmers) called Contentgod. In it's time it was a very cool package. Drav is unfortunately not around anymore as he died of a Heart Attack a couple of years back. He and I became very good friends across the span of a few years. We originally got together because he, like you, could not seem to find reliable programmers that would stick around. lolol. He used to burn through programmers like you wouldn't believe. I ended up doing various projects with him from 2004 until he died, some were good, some failed, just like anything. Anyway, back to my point (because there is one). Drav was a pain in the ass client a lot of times. Like you, he just wanted to say do it and get it done. It took a lot of time working with him to get him educated to the point that it doesn't always work that way and it was not in his best interest to approach things that way. You have made multiple threads across the past few months seeking programmers. You seem to have a problem keeping them or in your terms finding reliable ones with sanity. I have, in my weird little way, tried to help you out, tried to point out some of the issues. We programmers are weird because we usually deal in exacts rather than generalities. Most people speak in generalities and that leaves room for miscommunication. That is the bridge that you need to span, strictly in my opinion, if you want to find and keep a good programmer. Something that I have said to the owner of my company many times. "I can't do this by osmosis". I need to understand what is in your head to be able to make it occur on the computer and the only way I know how to get something out of someone's head, unless they are extremely good at writing up a requirements document, is to ask questions. You have often stated that you do not have to do that with your designer. It is great that you found someone that is on the same wavelength as you for those tasks but you might take a long time to reach that level with a programmer. Then again, you might luck out too. Good luck to you, for real. And with that I am out of this thread and off to bury my head in code for a couple of hours. . |
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LOL, the fucking document now made me get interested :P
Shoot it back to [email protected], i probably wont take the job as i personally charge too much as i dont like working for other persons and i take only jobs that are really interesting and challenging, and an API, don't seem to be one of those .... Unless it must be addressed for a HUUUUUUGEEE platform which may need to be thought as some sort of clusters connecting between them to load balancing the API charge, caching/merging the information received, etc. Anyway, that would be challenging/interesting project but i dont have the time for one like that, so again, i woldn't take the job, STILL, if you send me the paperwork, i could probably give you good feedback in order to fix/make it better and point you directly to people who could maybe be interested in the job ( I'm doing porn but i come from a real security/programming field, so i know bunch of REAL programmers, not just script kiddies .... ) btw, any of those friends of mine that would take the job would also not be cheap, so if you are willing to pay 2 cents for the job, send me the paperwork, but forget i will even forward you to one of them if you are not willing to pay a decent ammount for the work ;)
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Sent an e-mail.
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