|
|
|
|
||||
|
Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. |
 |
|
|||||||
| Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
|
|
Thread Tools |
08-03-2004, 12:04 AM
|
#1 |
|
Confirmed User
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 494
|
A letter from the producers of EroticaFest..
The EroticaFest concept initially started as a medium sized event which soon grew into a monster, both as far as entertainment elements go and cost of production (MTV's Alien Ant Farm, Carmen Electra's Naked Women's Wrestling League, Poet of Black Eyed Peas, Mansion the grandest venue in Miami etc.)
In order to make this event a success for all attendees and sponsors, the GigaCash team, the producers of this event (not XBiz) seeked additional sponsorships in order to cover increase in production costs - with a condition that this was to be communicated to all sponsors for their OK. Communication issues do arise in business, and may have reared their head in this case. Lisa, Chris, Bugbee and entire GigaCash team have nothing but the best intentions for their sponsors as well as the webmaster community - without them such events just wouldn't be possible - and any miscommunication was certainly not intentional. Our mission with all past & future events is equal exposure to each and every sponsor (one level only) and we are confident that we have delivered - not to mention that our sponsorship packages carry a satisfaction guarantee. We have and always will offer to reimburse any sponsor who is not 101% happy with their marketing investment. I can always be reached direct at: replies AT helmy D0T com |
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 12:07 AM
|
#2 |
|
$6 PER EMAIL JOiN
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: California
Posts: 13,185
|
When you added the 7th sponsor I communicated with Lisa that I was not pleased. She promised that there would be no further sponsors, yet you added two more for a total of 9.
I don't think it's a communication issue.
__________________
9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions!  ADULT DATING - $100 PPS LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM ICQ: 27442303 |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 12:41 AM
|
#3 |
|
Confirmed User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Fresno, Cali
Posts: 341
|
You made a deal... Then broke it...
 |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:00 AM
|
#4 |
|
Confirmed User
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: The Internet
Posts: 2,681
|
Helmy, your above post was a weak at best attempt to "right a wrong". Basically you are trying to sugar coat you lack of professionalism. My opinion is just that,an opinion based on the facts that have been stated by P1mpdog, DatingGold etc...
You made a deal, thn changed it with NO contact at all to any party involved.  |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:02 AM
|
#5 |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 16,714
|
i want a refund
thanks. email me for wire info. you can pay for the fucking wire fees too.
__________________
A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner! |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:03 AM
|
#6 | |
|
wtf ?
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: GFY
Posts: 11,895
|
Quote:
that should take care of the problem
__________________
Insert Sig Here |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:04 AM
|
#7 | |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 16,714
|
Quote:
scammed @ epiccash . com
__________________
A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner! |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:05 AM
|
#8 |
|
Confirmed User
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 6,704
|
How much is Alient Ant Farm asking for?
__________________
 
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:12 AM
|
#9 | |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2003
Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris
Posts: 27,880
|
Quote:
Its a joke really ... I know people who have bigger names play at local partys lol
__________________
[email protected] |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:13 AM
|
#10 |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 16,714
|
if alien ant farm cant make it, my granny plays the banjo
__________________
A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner! |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:17 AM
|
#11 |
|
First African GFY Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 12,114
|
I understand why p1mpdogg and DatingGold are mad, and they have every right to be mad. A deal was made and then broken.
 BTW, all the people performing their are nobodies in the music world. |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:17 AM
|
#12 |
|
Confirmed User
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: ICQ 380-366
Posts: 6,935
|
Alien ant farm? sure i heard of them some time ago - but i cant even remember what their one hit was..
they are SOOOOOOOOOO fucking famous 
__________________
#RememberYourRoots #AaronMForGFYHOF
 |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:17 AM
|
#13 | |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2003
Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris
Posts: 27,880
|
Quote:
__________________
[email protected] |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:18 AM
|
#14 | |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2003
Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris
Posts: 27,880
|
Quote:
if im not mistaken tha tis the only song they had that got airplay like two years ago ... smooth criminal was the song ... they tried to release more videos on mtv ... didnt go far ... poof they are gone doing shows for pennys
__________________
[email protected] |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 02:22 AM
|
#15 |
|
Dialer Kingpin
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 10,816
|
Seriously:
Who gives a flying fuck what the costs are? This is obviously something that needs to be handled by your team. The production costs and all fees should have been calculated before hand, not after deals and agreements were made. When you have an established name, you are held in the spotlight for every move. I hope you guys eventually run yourselves into the ground. The lack of professionalism, and your shitty practices will eventually lead to something that excuses and bullshit cannot pull you out of. Your word is good as shit.
__________________
 •  Sell Patches & Pills • |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 02:33 AM
|
#16 |
|
Confirmed User
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 3,382
|
Lame attempt to blame it on miscommunication, but at least a refund is being offered (what'd i say? ;) )
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 04:22 AM
|
#17 |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 16,112
|
What a joke...
__________________
Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars | RadicalCash | KennysPennies HomegrownCash | GhostCash |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 09:37 AM
|
#18 |
|
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 7,952
|
thanks for all the support
 |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 09:46 AM
|
#19 | |
|
My hips don't lie
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,129
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 09:48 AM
|
#20 |
|
Confirmed User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: 1123,6536,5231
Posts: 3,397
|
Wow... from bad to even worse in one weak "I refuse to admit it was our fault" statement.
Next time try not to be so "posh" and admit you're wrong and try to correct it. |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 10:16 AM
|
#21 |
|
Confirmed User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Montreal
Posts: 7,519
|
DON'T SHIT WHERE YOU EAT
Don't you ever think of me When you're outside strollin' Don't you ever wave the flag When we're rockin' and rollin' Don't shit where you eat, my friend Who said it was hard to climb A peak that you can't see I tell ya it's an easy thing When it's you and me But don't shit where you eat, my friend A little food and drink uh huh Nothin' too fancy Lamb, veal, and some good ole wine This is the life for me But don't shit where you eat, my friend Doodn doodn doo doo doo doo Doodn doodn doo doo doo doo Doodn doodn doo doo doo doo doo doo Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo Don't shit where you eat, my friend PS: WEEN ARE GODS
__________________
Spam link here |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 10:33 AM
|
#22 | |
|
Dialer Kingpin
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 10,816
|
Quote:
__________________
• Sell Patches & Pills • |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 10:35 AM
|
#23 | |
|
HAL 9000
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 34,524
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 10:38 AM
|
#24 | |
|
FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: FUBARLAND
Posts: 67,381
|
Quote:
__________________
 Sig Spot Available –contact JFK @ FUBARWebmasters.com FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 10:48 AM
|
#25 |
|
Confirmed User
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,519
|
Annie are you OK?
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 10:50 AM
|
#26 | |
|
Dialer Kingpin
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 10,816
|
Quote:
__________________
• Sell Patches & Pills • |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 10:51 AM
|
#27 | |
|
Confirmed User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NY
Posts: 9,507
|
Quote:
 |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 10:56 AM
|
#28 |
|
bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: In a shack by the beach
Posts: 16,016
|
Hmmm, Helmy's said that anyone not happy will get their money back.
So I'd say that's the only people that have any concern here, everyone else is just in it for the free entertainment. |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 10:59 AM
|
#29 | |
|
March 1st, 2003
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room
Posts: 20,295
|
Quote:
Anyway here's some more info...it was some really bad shit almost paralyzed the lead singer...so to call them a "one hit wonder" I don't think is real fair at this point...LOL Just some unlucky guys. http://www.mtv.com/bands/a/alien_ant...eature_030710/ |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 11:01 AM
|
#30 | ||
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 51,694
|
Quote:
OMGOMGOMG I'm laughing my ass soo hard since yesterday's drama ... everytime you come with something new
__________________
Quote:
|
||
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 11:02 AM
|
#31 | |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 51,694
|
Anyways he will give you a refound now ... that's all good
__________________
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 11:43 AM
|
#32 |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Player Del Ray
Posts: 9,716
|
Helmy is one of my favorite people in this business. He's a man of his word.
If something was promised then fucked up, he'll make good on it like he says. It sounds like the main thing that pissed off PD and DG is the response from Lisa after being notified. If that was said, I agree it's not the best thing to say to a sponsor. Still, Helmy recognizes it and is making good on his refund which most people wouldn't do. Parties are not easy to throw. There's also a learning curve involved, trust me. The thing they learned this time around is to have different layers of sponsors. You should always cap the amount of main sponsors while leaving the mini sponsorships wide open. I can understand needing to raise more money last second, I have to do that all of the time with the Players Ball. Even if people question the budget, it gets expensive at the last second. Hidden costs fly at you like crazy. Always leave a buffer with that budget just incase. My advise for future party organizers is this. Have only 1 to 3 main sponsors and create smaller packages for less money and don't promise as much to the smaller ones. There's a lot of people willing to pay $1k or $3k to have a nice package with private tables included, another way to raise that extra money needed. As a promoter of parties, I feel for Helmy. He's really stepped his game up and has expectations to be the best party which is exactly what it takes to have the best parties. Anyway, just wanted to defend Helmy a little since I know how hard it is to throw big events. In the end, you look back at the exposure and wonder if it's worth all of the stress and time. Now don't get me wrong, if it's promised that 6 sponsors and that's it, I'd be upset too. But it sounds like an employee made the promise and that bad response not Helmy himself. And Helmy is refunded those unhappy, so he's doing all he can do.
__________________
Still Ballin' |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 12:22 PM
|
#33 |
|
aka K-Man
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: The Gutter
Posts: 29,272
|
Helmy is one of the few totally honest people in this business.
Hey guess what... If you don't like the way things turned out, he said he'd refund your fucking money. so quit crying. shit.
__________________
Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 12:24 PM
|
#34 |
|
Programming King Pin
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Montreal
Posts: 27,360
|
Wow! This event is BIG !
__________________
UUGallery Builder - automated photo/video gallery plugin for Wordpress! Stop looking! Checkout Naked Hosting, online since 1999 !
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 12:24 PM
|
#35 |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Player Del Ray
Posts: 9,716
|
sup KMan, are you coming to the states soon?
Love to see you, been a while.
__________________
Still Ballin' |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 12:28 PM
|
#36 |
|
aka K-Man
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: The Gutter
Posts: 29,272
|
d$ i've been in the states for the past 10 days... im currently in daytona beach visiting everyone before the show... will u be at the show?
__________________
Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 12:30 PM
|
#37 | |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Player Del Ray
Posts: 9,716
|
Quote:
Anyway, are you coming out west?
__________________
Still Ballin' |
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 12:33 PM
|
#38 |
|
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 35,218
|
If you wanna make it up give all the money back to those that ask for it and give them all the free drinks they want... Then never ever pull this bullshit again...
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 12:39 PM
|
#39 |
|
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,817
|
Good response from Helmy..
I can understand how the lesser amount of exposure from adding 3 more sponsors to the mix might not make such an event worth the $6k (or whatever it was) for some affiliate programs. Every 1/6 banners is obviously worth much more than every 1/9 banners. Switching up those numbers inevitably will change the decision making process for advertisers as well. Matt
__________________
What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html |
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:12 PM
|
#40 | |
|
bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: In a shack by the beach
Posts: 16,016
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
08-03-2004, 01:15 PM
|
#41 |
|
So Fucking Banned
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: N.Y. -Long Island --
Posts: 122,992
|
Yo Helmy
Hook Juicy with the VIP tickets |
|
|
|
