Luke Ford on Gary Kremen vs. Steve Lightspeed - GoFuckYourself.com

Donny · 12-14-2004, 05:09 PM

Damn, Luke is stirring some shit!

About a quarter of a page down his site:

http://www.lukeisback.com/

He writes:

Gary Kremen Vs Steve Lightspeed

The true reason behind the Steve Lightspeed and Sex.Com's Gary Kremen spat has little to do with Kremen's public distace for Lightspeed under 18 looking models. It concern's Steve's extra-marital affair with Sue Whatley, Kremen's past employee. Kremen's dislike for Steve was fostered as Kremen did not approve of the poor way that Steve treated Whatley, who is now married to Serge of Oprano Fame.

European Lee · 12-14-2004, 05:12 PM

http://www.lukeisahack.com would be a better domain for that waste of oxygen.

Regards,

Lee

baddog · 12-14-2004, 05:15 PM

Is this supposed to be news? Better question, who fucking cares? Is this Luke guy such a sorry individual that he has nothing better to do than butt in to other people's private lives?

jimmyf · 12-14-2004, 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
Is this supposed to be news? Better question, who fucking cares? Is this Luke guy such a sorry individual that he has nothing better to do than butt in to other people's private lives?

Peaches · 12-14-2004, 05:26 PM

Duck is an idiot. Pretty sad the self professed journalist doesn't know how to spell "distaste", lol!

Cory W · 12-14-2004, 05:31 PM

Why give this guy the time?

Every article he refers to me in has some slur on it.

The guy is an idiot. I do not say things like that often.

I hope the Lightspeed dog eats him.

Donny · 12-14-2004, 05:32 PM

For some reason the thought of a "circle of life" comes to mind when I think of this.

Gary, Steve and Oprano are all connected by Sue Whatley. Lady Law.

Maybe it's just me, but it's amusing. "As the World Turns - GFY Style".

Peaches · 12-14-2004, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WEG Cory
Why give this guy the time?

Every article he refers to me in has some slur on it.

The guy is an idiot. I do not say things like that often.

I hope the Lightspeed dog eats him.

I don't even read his crap. The only time I see what's on his site is when someone posts it on the boards.

baddog · 12-14-2004, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
I don't even read his crap. The only time I see what's on his site is when someone posts it on the boards.

ditto

Aly · 12-14-2004, 05:53 PM

Oh Luke... haha...

Well, just so the rebuttal's out there... I was with Sue, Gary and Steve that weekend (who would've thought I'd be discussing it on GFY all this time later! LOL!) Steve was very nice to Sue as far as I could tell. Very nice really... and let's face it, Sue's a strong woman who's perfectly capable of looking after herself, and is unlikely to take too much shit from anyone.

We all had a very nice brunch at the local Jewish deli, including Gary, so he was definitely aware that Steve was there.

WiredGuy · 12-14-2004, 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by WEG Cory
I hope the Lightspeed dog eats him.

LOL

Peaches · 12-14-2004, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
Oh Luke... haha...

Well, just so the rebuttal's out there... I was with Sue, Gary and Steve that weekend (who would've thought I'd be discussing it on GFY all this time later! LOL!) Steve was very nice to Sue as far as I could tell. Very nice really... and let's face it, Sue's a strong woman who's perfectly capable of looking after herself, and is unlikely to take too much shit from anyone.

We all had a very nice brunch at the local Jewish deli, including Gary, so he was definitely aware that Steve was there.

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We must not confuse Duck with facts! He's still hot on the story of Make Fucking Money being owned by Brad and MikeAI!

SleazyDream · 12-14-2004, 06:11 PM

Steve fucked me in the ass without a condom in Toronto and I don't hold any bad thoughs against him.

Damian_Maxcash · 12-14-2004, 06:22 PM

Its getting more and more like a fucking soap opera............

And now Serge is in the list of characters.. WTF?

I still cant believe how Gary has handled this..... Steve demands his head and he hands it too him on a silver platter

ASACP needs strong leadership, able to handle this sort of muck slinging, what did he expect?..... Gary has proven he is not the man for the job. Its probably best he went.

Kimmykim · 12-14-2004, 06:46 PM

Anyone that doesn't know Sue might not realize just how imminently capable she is of taking care of herself. I'm not quite sure she was a sex.com employee though, she's an attorney.

Fletch XXX · 12-14-2004, 06:50 PM

no comment

fünkmaster · 12-14-2004, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
Steve fucked me in the ass without a condom in Toronto and I don't hold any bad thoughs against him.

... you sure that wasn't kremen behind you?

Rinaldo · 12-14-2004, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
Steve fucked me in the ass without a condom in Toronto and I don't hold any bad thoughs against him.

I thought I was the only one !

Well Sleazy you got next then. ;)

baddog · 12-14-2004, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

The true reason behind the Steve Lightspeed and Sex.Com's Gary Kremen spat has little to do with Kremen's public distace for Lightspeed under 18 looking models. It concern's Steve's extra-marital affair with Sue Whatley, Kremen's past employee. Kremen's dislike for Steve was fostered as Kremen did not approve of the poor way that Steve treated Whatley, who is now married to Serge of Oprano Fame.

I would like to know why you accept this as fact

fris · 12-14-2004, 07:52 PM

lukeford can suck my fat cock

Kimmykim · 12-14-2004, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
I would like to know why you accept this as fact

I would like to know why you think ANYONE would accept anything that Luke cut and pasted as fact! ;-}}}}

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-14-2004, 08:11 PM

You peple love luke...

Please look at you bickering tis a riot!

Luke seems to know what porn is.
Which is better than most of ya.

Donny · 12-14-2004, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
I would like to know why you accept this as fact

If you were talking to me I'd like to ask what makes you think I accept this as fact. Please re-read my original post and quote the part that says I accept this as fact. It's simply an interesting twist in the ongoing Gary vs. Steve drama.

And to Kimmy: Sue did indeed work for Gary for quite some time. She even lived in the sex.com building in San Fran for awhile. Sue was always a very nice person to deal with and was the one who made sure I understood Gary there in the beginning. Gary is a unique individual and you have to know a few of his quirks to properly understand him. Sue explained those to me.

The Bootyologist · 12-14-2004, 11:12 PM

oh man this is too much

J-Reel · 12-14-2004, 11:43 PM

WTF? The lukeford story links back to this Thread.

Dravyk · 12-15-2004, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by J-Reel
WTF? The lukeford story links back to this Thread.

Duh! What a shock!

Luke's greatest accomplishment is he's the only idiot in the world that has actually made more than two cents using Control-V.

And that's the nicest thing I'll ever say about that low-life.

SykkBoy · 12-15-2004, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Dravyk
Duh! What a shock!

Luke's greatest accomplishment is he's the only idiot in the world that has actually made more than two cents using Control-V.

And that's the nicest thing I'll ever say about that low-life.

that and his first radio show back in the day was, at the time, the highest turnout for any Internet radio show ;-) of course it went downhill from there.......

Donny · 12-15-2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by J-Reel
WTF? The lukeford story links back to this Thread.

And he changed what he wrote. What he'd originally said is what I posted at the beginning of this thread. What his site says now is:

Why Did Gary Kremen Leave ASACP?

Gary helped found and fund the organization against child porn. So why did he leaves its board of directors this week? So that issues between himself and Steve Lightspeed (who Gary believes abused his hospitality and his employee Sue Whatley at Gary's home in San Diego in 2001) did not affect ASACP.

I guess Steve's threat to start suing everyone scared him into changing his story.

Forest · 12-15-2004, 10:34 AM

duck is a moron

Donny · 12-15-2004, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Forest
duck is a moron

Why is he posting on LukeisBack.com instead of LukeFord.com ? I don't know the story. Anybody know what's up?

Forest · 12-15-2004, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Why is he posting on LukeisBack.com instead of LukeFord.com ? I don't know the story. Anybody know what's up?

he doesnt rate high enough on my priority scale to worry about where he posts his spew

Peaches · 12-15-2004, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
And he changed what he wrote. What he'd originally said is what I posted at the beginning of this thread. What his site says now is:

Why Did Gary Kremen Leave ASACP?

Gary helped found and fund the organization against child porn. So why did he leaves its board of directors this week? So that issues between himself and Steve Lightspeed (who Gary believes abused his hospitality and his employee Sue Whatley at Gary's home in San Diego in 2001) did not affect ASACP.
What a surprise - Duck posts a lie, gets caught and goes in and changes it.

I guess Steve's threat to start suing everyone scared him into changing his story.

JFK · 12-15-2004, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WEG Cory
Why give this guy the time?

Every article he refers to me in has some slur on it.

The guy is an idiot. I do not say things like that often.

I hope the Lightspeed dog eats him.

Come on Cory , you want to make the Dog sick ???

Donny · 12-15-2004, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Why is he posting on LukeisBack.com instead of LukeFord.com ? I don't know the story. Anybody know what's up?

Still wondering about this.

Tanker · 12-15-2004, 11:54 AM

I hung out with Sue a lot back then all the time in fact and I dont think steve ever abused her hahahahha thats the biggest load of crap. I havnt talked to sue in a long time but I dont think that was the case at all.

I had many long talks with Sue at the sex.com house we would hang out for hours and hours and never once did I think or hear that steve was abusing Sue. That's just absurd.

Maybe Gary liked Sue and was mad at Steve for being involved with Sue? I really dont know its just one possible answer.

Who knows whats your theory?

Donny · 12-15-2004, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tanker
I hung out with Sue a lot back then all the time in fact and I dont think steve ever abused her hahahahha thats the biggest load of crap. I havnt talked to sue in a long time but I dont think that was the case at all.

I had many long talks with Sue at the sex.com house we would hang out for hours and hours and never once did I think or hear that steve was abusing Sue. That's just absurd.

Maybe Gary liked Sue and was mad at Steve for being involved with Sue? I really dont know its just one possible answer.

Who knows whats your theory?

My theory is that the two of them had some minor issues in the past that have escalated to major issues now. So much so that Steve is willing to waste money on a lawsuit he can't possibly win just to prove that he is indeed willing to sue.

Manowar · 12-15-2004, 11:58 AM

"Great journalism! "

12-14-2004, 05:09 PM	#1
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	Luke Ford on Gary Kremen vs. Steve Lightspeed Damn, Luke is stirring some shit! About a quarter of a page down his site: http://www.lukeisback.com/ He writes: Gary Kremen Vs Steve Lightspeed The true reason behind the Steve Lightspeed and Sex.Com's Gary Kremen spat has little to do with Kremen's public distace for Lightspeed under 18 looking models. It concern's Steve's extra-marital affair with Sue Whatley, Kremen's past employee. Kremen's dislike for Steve was fostered as Kremen did not approve of the poor way that Steve treated Whatley, who is now married to Serge of Oprano Fame.

12-14-2004, 05:12 PM	#2
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12-14-2004, 05:53 PM	#10
Aly President, ePufferProfits Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,881	Oh Luke... haha... Well, just so the rebuttal's out there... I was with Sue, Gary and Steve that weekend (who would've thought I'd be discussing it on GFY all this time later! LOL!) Steve was very nice to Sue as far as I could tell. Very nice really... and let's face it, Sue's a strong woman who's perfectly capable of looking after herself, and is unlikely to take too much shit from anyone. We all had a very nice brunch at the local Jewish deli, including Gary, so he was definitely aware that Steve was there. __________________ . . Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: aly@epufferprofits.com

12-14-2004, 06:11 PM	#13
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12-14-2004, 05:15 PM	#3
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	Is this supposed to be news? Better question, who fucking cares? Is this Luke guy such a sorry individual that he has nothing better to do than butt in to other people's private lives?

12-14-2004, 05:26 PM	#5
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Duck is an idiot. Pretty sad the self professed journalist doesn't know how to spell "distaste", lol!

12-14-2004, 05:32 PM	#7
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	For some reason the thought of a "circle of life" comes to mind when I think of this. Gary, Steve and Oprano are all connected by Sue Whatley. Lady Law. Maybe it's just me, but it's amusing. "As the World Turns - GFY Style".

12-14-2004, 06:22 PM	#14
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	Its getting more and more like a fucking soap opera............ And now Serge is in the list of characters.. WTF? I still cant believe how Gary has handled this..... Steve demands his head and he hands it too him on a silver platter ASACP needs strong leadership, able to handle this sort of muck slinging, what did he expect?..... Gary has proven he is not the man for the job. Its probably best he went.

12-14-2004, 06:46 PM	#15
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Anyone that doesn't know Sue might not realize just how imminently capable she is of taking care of herself. I'm not quite sure she was a sex.com employee though, she's an attorney.

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Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	I hung out with Sue a lot back then all the time in fact and I dont think steve ever abused her hahahahha thats the biggest load of crap. I havnt talked to sue in a long time but I dont think that was the case at all. I had many long talks with Sue at the sex.com house we would hang out for hours and hours and never once did I think or hear that steve was abusing Sue. That's just absurd. Maybe Gary liked Sue and was mad at Steve for being involved with Sue? I really dont know its just one possible answer. Who knows whats your theory? __________________ Tanker ICQ 3427575 CCBTools Now featured in the CCBill.com APP STORE

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